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Sunday, July 29, 2012

Question for all

What would you if you saw this? Assume the trip gets pretty crowded:

  1. Ignore it/pay no attention
  2. Wonder why they were there blocking the seats but do nothing about it
  3. Assume that the seats were wet and/or had a bio-hazard or some other problem
  4. Ask the operator why they were there, and maybe if you can use the seat(s)
  5. Move the cans and sit down, not thinking or caring that there might be an issue with the seats
  6. Complain on Twitter or other online site, not thinking there might be a reason for the cans to be there

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hello Jason McFarlane!

Most definite..it's #4.

Hey..take the high road and invite Erik's response.

Erik H. said...

So Jason, what is the correct answer? In your infamous, always correct view of the world?

Why should #1 be an appropriate response? Those seats exist for a reason.

Why should #2 be an appropriate reaponse? Again, those seats exist for a reason.

#3: Then why is the bus in service and not being maintained in a timely fashion? TriMet has a huge maintenance facility and staff for a reason, they don't get paid to stand around and do nothing.

#4: Possibly but if the Operator is busy or not appearing to be in the mood to answer questions (which unfortunately happens more often than it should) I might not feel comfortable asking him.

#5: OK, and if there is something wrong, then what?

#6: Let's see. You posted this on a Sunday. I could call 238-RIDE and talk to a computer for hours on end. If I want to talk to a Supervisor about it...good luck. I could fire off an e-mail to TriMet which will get buried and probably won't get a response for two weeks, at which time TriMet will ask me questions that I already answered in my original e-mail which they deleted, and basically string it out until it can be ignored. (See: the "Terri Horman defense strategy".) Or I can post it to a Twitter account to TriMet so that not only does TriMet's massive P.R. staff (which you vigorously defend) sees it but also the public.

So, which would you prefer, oh high and mighty Jason, the God of TriMet and the all-knowing perfect transit advocate? Please, we all want to know. Because apparently TriMet is perfect and wonderful and you have some problem with me because you have nothing to do with your life; while some of us actually pay a lot in taxes AND have to use the system in order to earn the money to pay the taxes so that you can occupy seats that other people need more than you do.

Jason McHuff said...

Now Erik, what did the title say?

I specifically asked that you not respond (yet) so that maybe for once we could have a nice, positive post that didn't include your whining.

Most definite..it's #4.

Which is my point exactly. Choices 1-4 are reasonable/what an average, decent person would do; with 4 being above average since it means taking command and helping others out.

But Erik did not do that. Instead he chose option 6, and seemed to expect individual, personal attention to be lavished upon him. Attention to a small issue the organization as a body may know nothing about.

So Jason, what is the correct answer? In your infamous, always correct view of the world?

What did the person above you seem to think?

Why should #1 be an appropriate response? Those seats exist for a reason.

It would be acceptable because you seemed to fair OK, and it wasn't a serious issue.

Why should #2 be an appropriate reaponse? Again, those seats exist for a reason.

It would be acceptable for about the same reason as 1.

#3: Then why is the bus in service and not being maintained in a timely fashion? TriMet has a huge maintenance facility and staff for a reason, they don't get paid to stand around and do nothing.

What if solving the problem would delay service? Would you prefer that instead?

I might not feel comfortable asking him.

Why would it be reasonable to feel that way, especially if you were to ask in a nice, gentle and calm way that wouldn't annoy or upset the operator?

You posted this on a Sunday.

It doesn't really matter when I posted it. That's just when I happened to get around to doing it.

If I want to talk to a Supervisor about it...good luck.

What's wrong with asking the operator (or another one) for a supervisor? They have direct access to request one.

oh high and mighty Jason, the God of TriMet and the all-knowing perfect transit advocate

Please tell me why that's called for.

Because apparently TriMet is perfect and wonderful

Please show me where I said that.

And for the record, I actually do work and earn real pay checks that taxes are taken out of. If you want to meet at lunch time some time this week, I might be willing to show them to you (I work in the afternoon/evenings currently),

Al M said...

Jason if you don't stop this shit with Erik I am removing your rights to post here

Anonymous said...

The truth about this picture "is", when the operator picked up the bus at a garage, the service workers left the cans in the seats (always) as a regular thing. The operator (not in this case) puts the cans in the appropiate areas they go in. This did not require a lot of brain power to figure out, "if" the bus was packed the driver would put them in their place. Now are "we" on the same page?????

Anonymous said...

Jason--Erik. Quit it! We're all sick of seeing you purposely try to start an arguement with each other. This blog is not the place for it.

Jason McHuff said...

the service workers left the cans in the seats (always) as a regular thing

I honestly did not realize that. I would think that the shaggers would put the bins back where they came from after they empty them. I have heard of operators putting a bin on a seat to stop people from sitting there, so that's what I thought might have happened.

Anonymous said...

That's ok, just understand that this "is" not an issue to "us" that drive, I'll just say that drivers will not put it there just to stop people from sitting there, "we" have more pressing issues, like driving. LOL