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I'd like to know why there are multiple buses that layover at Washington Square and all the Operators get is a lousy port-a-potty...
But at the MAX terminuses where there is just ONE Operator laying over at a time, they get a nice permanent structure with a rest area, air conditioning, an actual restroom, etc...
And there CAN be pigs falling out of the sky. The reality is that unless trains are off schedule there is ONE train and ONE operator on break at a MAX terminus, there are MULTIPLE buses and MULTIPLE operators on break at Washington Square TC.
it's because the money comes as part of the project
So you're saying that there is money specifically earmarked ONLY for light rail projects, that can't be used for buses, that specifically dictate fixed breakroom facilities for light rail operators?
Please show me this law that allows light rail Operators to have luxurious restrooms, but bus operators don't.
Also, there are permanent, sanctioned restrooms available nearby that TC.
Define "nearby". There are restrooms "nearby" all of the MAX terminus stations that are as close, or closer, than the Washington Square "sanctioned" restroom facility.
Maybe you'd like to tell me how far away the restroom is from the Washington Square TC. Is it 50 feet? 100 feet? You're not even close. The distance from the furthest stop to the DOOR of the mall is 515 feet. 360 feet if you're at the nearest stop. And that's just to the door of the mall. You still have a long ways to go before you get to the restroom. You tell me, Jason. If you're a bus driver who's been on the road, say, on the 43 route, and really needs to use the restroom...is 360 feet "nearby" to you? Or, are you some superhuman guy? Or do you think bus drivers should have to wear diapers?
Jason--one more thing. Your posts tend to piss me off. I don't know if you really just want to defend an indefensible agency, or, if you just don't get it.
Either way--you miss the disparity so evident between TriMet Excecs, the operator, and the customer.
So you're saying that there is money specifically earmarked ONLY for light rail projects, that can't be used for buses
Isn't that true?
that specifically dictate fixed breakroom facilities for light rail operators
No, it's that money is available to do things like that, and when you're already doing heavy construction and have the area torn up, it's cheaper and easier to build a building.
Please show me this law that allows light rail Operators to have luxurious restrooms, but bus operators don't.
Who said there was a law? And bus operators get just as nice rooms at Beaverton, Clackamas, Gresham, Willow Creek and other places.
There are restrooms "nearby" all of the MAX terminus stations
Can TriMet use them?
Regarding Washington Square, I believe operators are allowed to use the JC Penney Furniture store restroom.
Moreover, unlike MAX operators, bus operators can leave their bus to use a restroom mid-route without causing problems. MAX operators are generally stuck until the other end.
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I'd like to know why there are multiple buses that layover at Washington Square and all the Operators get is a lousy port-a-potty...
But at the MAX terminuses where there is just ONE Operator laying over at a time, they get a nice permanent structure with a rest area, air conditioning, an actual restroom, etc...
There can be multiple MAX operators laying over; in any case it's because the money comes as part of the project.
Also, there are permanent, sanctioned restrooms available nearby that TC.
There can be multiple MAX operators laying over
And there CAN be pigs falling out of the sky. The reality is that unless trains are off schedule there is ONE train and ONE operator on break at a MAX terminus, there are MULTIPLE buses and MULTIPLE operators on break at Washington Square TC.
it's because the money comes as part of the project
So you're saying that there is money specifically earmarked ONLY for light rail projects, that can't be used for buses, that specifically dictate fixed breakroom facilities for light rail operators?
Please show me this law that allows light rail Operators to have luxurious restrooms, but bus operators don't.
Also, there are permanent, sanctioned restrooms available nearby that TC.
Define "nearby". There are restrooms "nearby" all of the MAX terminus stations that are as close, or closer, than the Washington Square "sanctioned" restroom facility.
Maybe you'd like to tell me how far away the restroom is from the Washington Square TC. Is it 50 feet? 100 feet? You're not even close. The distance from the furthest stop to the DOOR of the mall is 515 feet. 360 feet if you're at the nearest stop. And that's just to the door of the mall. You still have a long ways to go before you get to the restroom. You tell me, Jason. If you're a bus driver who's been on the road, say, on the 43 route, and really needs to use the restroom...is 360 feet "nearby" to you? Or, are you some superhuman guy? Or do you think bus drivers should have to wear diapers?
Dear Jason McFarlane:
Where are the permamnent, sanctioned restrooms nearby Wash Sq. TC?
Are they within walking distance for the operator?
Does the distance accommodate safety to the operator and is the operator's scheduled break time a factor?
Do you believe it is warranted that an operator is expected to use a port-o-potty?
Should the GM and the entire TriMet staff hold the same expectation of themselves?
Jason--one more thing. Your posts tend to piss me off.
I don't know if you really just want to defend an indefensible agency, or, if you just don't get it.
Either way--you miss the disparity so evident between TriMet Excecs, the operator, and the customer.
The reality is that unless trains are off schedule there is ONE train and ONE operator on break at a MAX terminus
How about you study the schedule database that Max Campos has so nicely made available:
Here's the schedule for trains arriving and departing Hatfield Government Center MAX Station; and here's the one for Cleveland Ave MAX Station. And those are just for the Blue Line. "t.direction_id" or "st.stop_sequence" show whether the train is arriving or departing.
So you're saying that there is money specifically earmarked ONLY for light rail projects, that can't be used for buses
Isn't that true?
that specifically dictate fixed breakroom facilities for light rail operators
No, it's that money is available to do things like that, and when you're already doing heavy construction and have the area torn up, it's cheaper and easier to build a building.
Please show me this law that allows light rail Operators to have luxurious restrooms, but bus operators don't.
Who said there was a law? And bus operators get just as nice rooms at Beaverton, Clackamas, Gresham, Willow Creek and other places.
There are restrooms "nearby" all of the MAX terminus stations
Can TriMet use them?
Regarding Washington Square, I believe operators are allowed to use the JC Penney Furniture store restroom.
Moreover, unlike MAX operators, bus operators can leave their bus to use a restroom mid-route without causing problems. MAX operators are generally stuck until the other end.
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