tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post294124985517184752..comments2023-12-02T02:39:47.828-08:00Comments on RANTINGS OF A FORMER TRIMET BUS DRIVER: Interesting debate between, Erik, Cwherewetakeu, and myself on fare evasion policies at oregonliveAl Mhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06670275801784105978noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post-21584300233622379322013-09-24T11:34:01.705-07:002013-09-24T11:34:01.705-07:00What the hell are you talking about and what does ...What the hell are you talking about and what does it have to do with this post?Al Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06670275801784105978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post-7727525346530492612013-09-24T11:29:21.020-07:002013-09-24T11:29:21.020-07:00What do you think about, say, building inspections...What do you think about, say, building inspections that require you to prove that your building is safe? I know an unsafe building can be much more serious, but it's the same concept.Jason McHuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16755863891262666887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post-78189718117936226322013-09-23T08:40:48.529-07:002013-09-23T08:40:48.529-07:00Of course, even if the MAX was fully grade separat...<i>Of course, even if the MAX was fully grade separated with fare gates, you and Erik would still be complaining about the cost. So seems like you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.</i><br />---->No Max I would not be complaining about the cost. Trimess throws millions around on all sorts of questionable crap, securing the stations is the only way to go if you want security.<br /><br />MY theory is this is more about the police state than about fares. Having the police randomly 'search' all riders assuming that they are guilty until they prove themselves innocent is GESTAPO tatics and I am against search and seizure without probably cause.<br /><br />If these dopes that run Trimet had built the thing correctly at the time most of these problems would be mootAl Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06670275801784105978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post-33839187123214280732013-09-22T15:21:53.050-07:002013-09-22T15:21:53.050-07:00MAX I am arguing for an end to Tristapo tactics an...MAX I am arguing for an end to Tristapo tactics and the installation of real security in the form of entry at all max stationsAl Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06670275801784105978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post-15007614604806486842013-09-22T15:16:25.237-07:002013-09-22T15:16:25.237-07:00BTW: In this very thread you're complaining ab...BTW: In this very thread you're complaining about how TriMet is too tight on fare enforcement; yet now you're lobbying for even stricter fare enforcement by having gates. <br /><br />So which is it, Al? Do you want to complain about fare enforcement being too strict, or not strict enough?Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17161417976651424314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post-25001190880480970232013-09-22T15:13:05.756-07:002013-09-22T15:13:05.756-07:00Right... and that's exactly what TriMet is wor...Right... and that's exactly what TriMet is working on for the stations that are separated (Milwaukie will pilot fare gates). But Jason's point is - how exactly do you put a gate at the SW 4th Ave MAX station, which is a public sidewalk. Even if you blocked off the sidewalk, someone could still cross the street (into the trackway) and be inside the fare zone without passing through the gate.<br /><br />Of course, even if the MAX was fully grade separated with fare gates, you and Erik would still be complaining about the cost. So seems like you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17161417976651424314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post-77749329513127714992013-09-22T14:58:01.887-07:002013-09-22T14:58:01.887-07:00Like A REAL transit districtLike <a href="http://buboblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/muni-turnstiles-get-high-techand-family.html" rel="nofollow">A REAL</a> transit districtAl Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06670275801784105978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post-35515711945811959722013-09-22T14:56:29.596-07:002013-09-22T14:56:29.596-07:00What do you mean how so? you install
Security Gat...What do you mean how so? you install <br /><a href="http://snsville.com/security-gates-essential-home-additions/" rel="nofollow">Security Gates </a> and have some sort of scanner enabled entry way, its done at most world class transit agenciesAl Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06670275801784105978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post-79169653682748927312013-09-22T13:24:53.684-07:002013-09-22T13:24:53.684-07:00How so, when many stations are not separated from ...How so, when many stations are not separated from the surrounding environment, and when there's no way to automatically check fares?Jason McHuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16755863891262666887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post-40256151217174819242013-09-21T23:07:59.881-07:002013-09-21T23:07:59.881-07:00As I said Trimet COULD HAVE secured the stations b...As I said Trimet COULD HAVE secured the stations but they chose to sick a bunch of TRISTAPO on its customers insteadAl Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06670275801784105978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post-86638618021966014972013-09-21T19:03:36.275-07:002013-09-21T19:03:36.275-07:00The problem is that people will abuse warnings if ...The problem is that people will abuse warnings if they know that's all that they'll get and won't pay until they have to.<br /><br />And if a person doesn't get checked for many months, that's a lot of missed revenue.<br /><br />Also, a high amount of repeat offenders shows there's no need for guaranteed warnings.<br /><br />Ticket machine problems are a different issue.<br /><br />Lastly, what TriMet/the app could do is use the phone's serial, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Station_Equipment_Identity" rel="nofollow">IMEI</a> or SIM card numbers, which are labeled on the phone and unique and attached to the device.Jason McHuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16755863891262666887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post-38338986900101032412013-09-21T16:38:39.007-07:002013-09-21T16:38:39.007-07:00Guys, you know this is a revenue stream, so the co...Guys, you know this is a revenue stream, so the company that spends like its no tomorrow, can't keep a dime to its name, bond sending to WallStreet, pension fund looting, non-essential employee hiring at too-much salery with awesome benefits and retirement.....etc,etc, umm; what were you guys talking about again???<br />HB<br />HBAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248114329569392066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post-58092575352489703602013-09-21T10:24:27.289-07:002013-09-21T10:24:27.289-07:00Disagree, everyone deserves a couple of freebies b...Disagree, everyone deserves a couple of freebies before being hit with that outrageous fine.<br />This is a publicly tax funded service don't forget, not a private enterprise.Al Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06670275801784105978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595057345294486478.post-63789273826568481692013-09-21T09:42:03.653-07:002013-09-21T09:42:03.653-07:00Simple solution: if you aren't from the tri co...Simple solution: if you aren't from the tri county area including Clark county, you get a warning. Otherwise they get a citation. More than one offense in a rolling 12 months, they get arrested for theft of servicesThe Chauffeurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05732647415048472668noreply@blogger.com