I've got to put my 2 cents in re: the fact that this women didn't give this person a transfer. I have had buffed, tattooed men who look like they are most likely felons and gawd knows what else,come up to me in tears after being shamed by tri met drivers.
I'm sorry Al, but many ,I'd say at least 1/2 of the ops are insensitive bores who are most likely racist. You should hear the crap the mother-fucking Christians spew on facebook. All she had to say to the guy is look, I see you're a bit short so let me give you a transfer in the event...but noooo- the bitch-there's that word again, had to be right and that's what got her hit in the fucking head!
She set herself up to be hit. This a.m.(4:30) I was signing this run and there were 4 extra board drivers talking about how they refuse to pick people up between 10th and 14th Aves. in Hillsboro.
I don't drive the 57, but outside of there being a sinkhole or something major, they could accommodate those riders-most of whom are transit dependent, but they won't cuz they're insensitive pricks.
They pick on the people who are less fortunate than themselves under the guise of "but it says such and thus" on the reroute sheet.
These jackasses are just looking for ways to treat people they deem as less important than their obnoxious asses.
There will be no peace on earth cuz I hate my fucking coworkers,(in the event that we're supposed to cultivate peace in our hearts type thing).
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and you wonder why our union has no solidarity
One out of 1600. You think he's hurting solidarity?
I want to know if its true?
Really???
HB
If it had been me I would have given him a transfer. He paid a fare he gets a transfer that was my policy.
And my comment in no way justifies a brutal attack against another human being.
I would like to hear the verbal exchange between the two of them as well as the inside the bus video footage. Of course we are dealing with the most secretive transit agency in america so we will never see or hear any of the actual events.
I'd like to know who this is.
Honestly, this operator is right. Although that does not mean it was okay that the jerk assaulted the other operator.
Fare is just a piece of paper. If it mattered to TriMet they would eliminate the possibility (within reason) to evade fare.
Hell. Print a youth or HC ticket for a guy who is being a jerk. Most don't look at what the operator gives them. He'll be screwed if fare inspectors show up.
And if the guy is just genuinely short of fare give him an adult day ticket. TriMet calls that 'excellent customer service'!
Honestly this operator should put have the guts to put his damn name on his post. Otherwise shut the hell up.
First of all she was wrong in not giving the man a ticket. If he gives you money he needs a receipt as far as I'm concerned. But no one deserves to be beat up and intimidated by losers like this. Period.
I know who this is and they requested their name not be posted for obvious reasons. I'm not gonna give up the name sorry.
Unbelievable. If this piece of crap truly feels this way, why is he working there?
You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. This has aways been a no win problem. If you note those who ride your bus who over pay, you will find that you would collect enough money in a 10 hour day to allow 2 or 3 people to ride free. I guess it would also depend on the line. When I have someone over pay me I always say that your extra 50 cents will help someone by the end of the day that might be short. They always reply "Great" I'm glad it won't be wasted. I know Pam, she's a good person and always trying her best to do a good job and to project a positive image for ATU. Why haven't those attacks and disrespectful comments against Pan not been deleted?
Freedom of speech
Who are these loser f*ckng cowards calling this female assault victim a bitch and condoning violence against women? Disgraces to the male gender and living proof that the Tea Party and their ilk have been fairly successful in their mission to create an American style Taliban. The average American now reads at only a 6th or 7th grade level, and the comments on this site reflect this growing ignorance and the ugliness it breeds.
"WOW" What happened to compassion and respect for your union brother or sister. It’s one of the things I love best about Tri Met is the diversity and the comradeship amongst operators. It’s one of the fringe benefits of the job that Tri Met can’t take away, the great people I work with.
It pains me to read such sarcasm towards someone who I admire and value. Pam is not a bitch nor did she deserve to be beaten up! And so what if she is a Christian? Isn't that the new discrimination now days? If your white and a Christian you’re to blame for everyone else’s bad behavior.
When Daemon Bowman buys a 6 pack does he short change the cashier?
Or when Daemon Bowman buys a bag of weed does he short change the dealer?
The point is no one man or woman, black, white, yellow, red etc should ever be beaten up ever. Daemon Bowman could have just walked off the bus but instead chooses to hit Pam. Was this some gang initiation? Will there be other?
Bus operators have been the target of negative propoganda and vicious attacks, stabbings and assaults. Tri Met needs to immediately start addressing these urgent safety matters and quit pitting the public against bus operators.
Until these issues have been resolved I suggest that all bus operators give everyone a free ride because “your safety has to be your core value” when you work for Tri Met.
Al. I will donate $1000 Lane Jensen's Defense Fund if you publish drivers name
Sorry no can do.
And yet the media makes a huge deal Scott this when the real injustice is Lane bring jailed for using his first Amendment rights. The attacker has a maximum 60 day jail sentence and Lane is looking up to 15 years? What is it that I'm not seeing here?
Question for you al if its a felony to a assault a driver would it that equate to more than one year in jail felonies are one plus year in jail
In my opinion 60 days in jail is pretty lenient for an assault on anybody. I don't know the guys past record or if he has one. According to Dan Martin he has seen the audio and the video. Let the public see it and we will all have a better handle on what happened.
I made $97000 and your point
SO Y U STRESSING ABOUT 50 CENT?
Its not about what she made it what he is suppose to pay for goods. I personally don't argue about the fare. They can have the whole damn bus if they want it. Its the aggression and intemidation if they don't get their way.
If you fly on a plane you pay the full amount. Before you go to the doctor you pay the full amount before they give you service.
The bus has become a nightmare anymore with people walking all over you. Just becasuse I made x amount of dollars I owe it to someone else becasuse they didn't make x amount of dollars. This is stupid logic.
DR DOES NOT GET TAX$ AIRPLANES NO TAX $ U TRYMET PEEPS THINK UZ ALL THAT U DON BREAK IT DOWN
Just so y'all know there have been quite a few operators who support the author of this post, obviously they are afraid to 'come out of the closet'
I think they are hiring you should work there and be the shinibg example.
What if the money he gave her was not enough for any fare?
What he did was wrong he shouldnta put hands on her. He canbug over 50cent but now hes got a case on soem stupid stuff. What did he prove nothing except he has to use his fists instead of his mind. Besides what coward put hands on a woman like that probably one that has mother issues.
Speaking of Bowman's mother, some of you may remember that he and his mother were in the news about ten years ago during the Jason Sery case where a Sery, a Portland police officer, shot and killed an unarmed man.
Bowman was roughed up by Sery in the days before the shooting. His mother, Toni Allen, filed a complaint with PPB Internal Affairs that the beating of her son was unjustified. Bowman was a gang member in California according to the news accounts.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/washingtoncounty/2008/01/sery.html
So does Bowman getting beat up unnecessarily by police give him justification for beating a bus driver because the driver represents an authority figure to him? Obviously not, but it does make one question the psychological underpinnings of Bowan's thought process perhaps.
Not saying that Bowman was justified for what he did but I too believe that Ms Thompson could have avoided the situation by just giving him a transfer. Easier said than done, however. I had a difficult time doing it myself but that was the policy of our transit agency. Were were requested to ask once for the proper fare and even if the correct fare wasn't paid then give the rider whatever they wanted ...in other words, given them a ride without a fare or a transfer if they asked for one. Later the policy was revised that we didn't have to communicate with the passenger at all and if they didn't pay a fare and asked for a transfer to just give them the transfer. In fact, it was even rumored that some drivers were disciplined for doing what Ms Thompson did ...refusing to give a transfer for an underpaid fare.
That policy circulated through the community quickly and often I was told when questioning a fare, "don't hassle me, man. I don't have to pay no fare and you know it. Read your 'Book,' man." (the "Book" was a book given to us at pick where the rules and policies were spelled out along with route maps, etc.)
Although I feel for Ms Thompson and wish her well, I also know that she could have prevented getting assaulted that night.
Just wanted to get in on the trolling....just saying.
HB
Not only does he/she have to post IN ALL CAPS, but also appears to have a sixth grade education.
1) It's awfully damn funny that at the head of every comments section, including this one, it says "Attacks and/or disrespectful comments against individuals will be deleted." But wait, now that's freedom of speech so it's ok. Or it's not criticizing Al directly, so that's ok too. (messin with ya man..just sayin..)
2) IMO, Religion should not be brought into the conversation, but since it has, she sounds more like a weekend Christian. One of those that is on the warpath during the week and then goes to church to absolve herself of the weeks sins. Several folks who know her say she is pretty hardcore about her firmness over the fare in the bull pen and even with her friends outside of work. Now she forgives him. That's great! Call the D.A. and cancel the charges. Our mistake...we thought there was a crime committed. Never mind. Let the assaults continue.
3) I agree with some of my cohorts. Give 'em a transfer for what they paid for. He gave ya $2.00-he gets a Youth fare...though the exception to that rule would be one of my regulars, but then it would be more likely I'd stop them before they got to the farebox anyway. Don't get beat up over it.
4) Yeah,good question. With respect, Why is it that only White people can be racist? That pprobably pisses me off more than anything else I hear. "Aw man, you're just doing that cause I'm black". My typical response is that if you knew me 10 minutes you would realize just how STUPID a comment that is. I am not always successful but I DAMN WELL TRY HARD to be fair to EVERYONE, regardless of race. It doesn't make it easier when someone wants to pull out the damn race card like it's a cigarette. And I don't by the "In the past, the was oppression" bit either. We can't move on and FIX the damn thing if it keeps getting brought up!
5) I don't buy the taxes pay your salary argument either. I pay Damian Lilliards bloated salary if I go to a Blazer game. If I go to Safeway, I pay the clerks salary. Yeah, your taxes CONTRIBUTE to my salary, but guess what...SO DO MINE. So in essence, I'm paying myself to work. You don't buy groceries and give them $50 for $55.00 in groceries. You don't ride the bus if your short either. NOW HOLD ON AL...Yeah, it's public transit... it's different. I agree with you (Call AMR, Al is on the floor in shock)but not entirely. If you are honestly struggling to make ends meet, I'll jump on the free bandwagon with ya and sound the trumpets right along side ya. If you're out there buying cigarettes, booze and steak dinners and god knows what else, and you get on my bus with a bag full of crap and you say you're short...I will give you a transfer based off of what you paid. You had money to buy your crap, but not for the bus.
Ok, the bus should be free. I actually agree. BUT UNTIL THE LAW makes it that, everyone pays. And not paying or not paying the full amount IS THEFT OF SERVICES just as if you stole it from a store or gas station.
Excuse me, my soapbox is starting to cave in.
I'd love to kick this anonymous drivers ass for being such prick. She was right not to give him a damn thing, and shouldn't have let him on in the first place without paying. No wonder trimet needs so much of our tax money and I constantly hear whining about union benefits- you are not collecting the fares. Dumbasses. If the anonymous driver wants to meet up so I can beat their ass, just post where to meetup. Oh and FREE Lane Jensen.
Carl: Farebox revenue only amounts to 22% of TriMet's $489M operating budget. If everyone paid their fare, how much more money do you think that would bring in? $1M? Do you think that would be enough to solve TriMet's budgetary problems and provide the health care coverage that the union wants?
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