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Tuesday, July 17, 2012
TriMet's definition of "Frequent Service"
The sign, posted at 99W and Garrett Street in Tigard, clearly says that Line 12 runs every 15 minutes or better during the day, every day.
So why is the 12 bus scheduled for a 33 minute headway?
I'm sure there is a perfectly logical explanation as to why this TriMet officially posted bus stop schedule is outdated and incorrect.
"During the day" can mean "during the daytime, and not through the evening". Moreover, would you rather TriMet spend time and money keeping the 100's or 1000's of signs like those completely up-to-date?
Exactly when does "day" end? Is it a particular time of day, or is it based upon the rotation of the earth and sun? Does it change with the season or is it all year?
TriMet made a big fuss to put those signs up. TriMet said it was to improve customer service. Part of TriMet's job IS to provide customer service, accurate information and good bus stops to access transit. So, yes, I do believe TriMet needs to spend the time and money to update the 8,000 or so bus stops it has.
Otherwise, I'm sure that you will equally agree that TriMet does not need to maintain the facilities at each MAX stop, each of which has multiple such signs, and many of them also have electronic Transit Tracker signs that ALSO display the same information. Don't you think that's a waste of money?
Or, is it just a waste of money when it comes to the bus system, because we all know all of that same exact info is required for MAX riders, but bus riders apparently can figure it out on their own? (Or, you just hate the bus system and figure if the bus system has a few fewer riders, so much the better for your cause?)
Jason--please stop defending the crap by TriMet. You don't get it-whether it is 10 or 10,000 bus stops, it does not matter. Providing Bus service and accurate information to their transit customer is their JOB.
"Day" ends at 6-6:30 in my opinion (end of rush hour). What your showing is indeed evening, but I think FS routes were to never be more than 30min headways, which is still under achieved here. Also I see that bus is hot, I hope it held for time unlike the 15 I rode on Sunday.
And Jason, Metro up here replaces schedules on thousands of stops every shake-up, because thats how you run a bus system and keep your riders informed. MAybe if TriMet went from 4 shake ups to three, they could save some money.
MAybe if TriMet went from 4 shake ups to three, they could save some money.
That would be an idea. After all there's many more things a sign-up/shakeup requires besides changing bus stop schedules. I believe TriMet's routine may be based on the end/start of the school year; but I'm not sure that's entirely necessary.
accurate information
That's what Transit Tracker is for. Also, as I pointed out recently, some of the TVMs at MAX stations still have pre-Green Line rail maps on them.
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"During the day" can mean "during the daytime, and not through the evening". Moreover, would you rather TriMet spend time and money keeping the 100's or 1000's of signs like those completely up-to-date?
OK, Jason.
Exactly when does "day" end? Is it a particular time of day, or is it based upon the rotation of the earth and sun? Does it change with the season or is it all year?
TriMet made a big fuss to put those signs up. TriMet said it was to improve customer service. Part of TriMet's job IS to provide customer service, accurate information and good bus stops to access transit. So, yes, I do believe TriMet needs to spend the time and money to update the 8,000 or so bus stops it has.
Otherwise, I'm sure that you will equally agree that TriMet does not need to maintain the facilities at each MAX stop, each of which has multiple such signs, and many of them also have electronic Transit Tracker signs that ALSO display the same information. Don't you think that's a waste of money?
Or, is it just a waste of money when it comes to the bus system, because we all know all of that same exact info is required for MAX riders, but bus riders apparently can figure it out on their own? (Or, you just hate the bus system and figure if the bus system has a few fewer riders, so much the better for your cause?)
Jason--please stop defending the crap by TriMet. You don't get it-whether it is 10 or 10,000 bus stops, it does not matter. Providing Bus service and accurate information to their transit customer is their JOB.
Please stop defending the undefensible.
"Day" ends at 6-6:30 in my opinion (end of rush hour). What your showing is indeed evening, but I think FS routes were to never be more than 30min headways, which is still under achieved here. Also I see that bus is hot, I hope it held for time unlike the 15 I rode on Sunday.
And Jason, Metro up here replaces schedules on thousands of stops every shake-up, because thats how you run a bus system and keep your riders informed. MAybe if TriMet went from 4 shake ups to three, they could save some money.
MAybe if TriMet went from 4 shake ups to three, they could save some money.
That would be an idea. After all there's many more things a sign-up/shakeup requires besides changing bus stop schedules. I believe TriMet's routine may be based on the end/start of the school year; but I'm not sure that's entirely necessary.
accurate information
That's what Transit Tracker is for. Also, as I pointed out recently, some of the TVMs at MAX stations still have pre-Green Line rail maps on them.
They apparently cut the funding for updating their crappy stop maps.
Looong time ago, theres a few stops on the 14 line that show the old 2nd Av-Morrison Br Loop routing during the mall construction.
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